TD spotted it here earlier.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/265448/1/RNWT-Has-anybody-else-noticed-this#.UmM_SVPKE1I
ha to funny.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/error-found-in-new-silver-sword-revised-new-world-translation.
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TD spotted it here earlier.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/265448/1/RNWT-Has-anybody-else-noticed-this#.UmM_SVPKE1I
picked up by a friend (not an appointed man) in his car, linked my phone to his bluetooth stereo for music, the big screen immediately showed what i'd been listening to previously.
a podcast from healing x outreach on jw's new light.
awkward much?
Murphy's Law isn't it?
Every time you forget to navigate your phone out of JWN, a Dub will be looking over your shoulder when you turn it on.
Cousin SuperDub walks in when you have your jukebox on random and it just happens that Brother Sir Nutcase is about to announce that you had better be alive in '75.
just recently i explained to my parents and my wife in detail, why i would accept blood or red, white blood cells, platelets or plasma in a medical emergency.
i showed them the inconsistencies and flaws about blood fractions and also the biblical reasons that show clearly that jehovah and jesus do not want a jehovah's witness to die because of that wrong doctrine.. my parents reacted surprised.
they are both about 50 years in the "truth.
Elders are not your friends. There are no good reasons to tell them anything cult related.
even in the united states, where religion still enjoys perhaps the greatest popularity, nearly three out of four persons polled said that it is losing influence.
one of the reasons is that people are disturbed by what is happening in their churches.
yes, millions of persons have been shocked to learn that things they were taught as being vital for salvation are now considered by their church to be wrong.
They had aother bash at them in the 1984 April Fools Day WT
Page 23
At the beginning of 1973 I subscribed to a number of religious magazines, including some that criticized the Roman Catholic Church and its teachings. Now certain inconsistencies became ever more evident to me. For example, at one time eating meat on Friday was forbidden. When this church teaching was changed, I thought: ‘According to that teaching, those who ate meat on Friday committed a mortal sin. For a mortal sin, one can be punished with hellfire—an irreversible punishment. But if in hell there are some who did not repent for eating meat on Friday, what will they think now?’
ok so i have already been talked to about this and i always have difficulty finding a retort.
my friend/elder condtantly tells me to visit bethel to prove its gods org--efficient, obedient, loving place, yadda yadda.
and he also uses how many go out and preach the same message, how no matter where you go youll get the same loving treatment, follow the bible as best they can (ha), show lots of love, do t celebrate pagan holidays, etc etc.
What was the subject before he asked the questions? Was he looking for a diversion, a subject he is more comfortable with?
JWs do not want to talk about anything problematic, so if you let him sleaze his way out of every tricky topic, you'll never get him to confront anything worthwhile.
And you don't have to answer all his questions. He is the one claiming to belong to a church that can save your sorry arse from his killer god, so make him answer your question (note: singular).
for me it was the book!
it opened my eyes.
i started it thinking it would just enlighten me about how the organisation works.
Bought a copy online. Still waiting for my wife to want to read it.
so i've been sharing some a little at a time with my sister.
she is married and very scared of actually learning too much.
she doesn't want to ruin her marriage.
Ask her questions then let her do the research to find the answers.
Read Jeremiah 25:12 and think of what questions you could ask that could make her realise that it contradicts WT chronology and the KJV/NWT versions of 29:10
Ask her to draw up a king list from Nebuchadnessar to Nabonidus showing which king reigned in each year and recording her sources so that it is easy to go back and check for any mistakes.
last week friday i was delayed in going to work, for which i am glad.
it was an opportunity for me to help my gran one last time.
she thanked me, told me she loved me and that i would be very blessed.
It's so nice you were there for her.
My condolences go to you and your family.
Chris
so tonight my wife looked iver the wt for tomorrow.
she said what she got out of it was that apostates are negative murmurers who can cause you to question jehovah and his earthly org and that it reminded her of the negativity caused when i told her i read ray franz's book.
she said it caused me to question service, family worship night, and praying together.
A bit of shut up is very good.
You can't talk sense with a frightened cult member, so don't frighten her.
say a person wants to start making fellow jws think and open up their eyes so they decide to just repeat what they have read on some apostate site but deny any agreement with what read.
how many times do you think he could do it before being called into a committee, and eventually be disfellowshipped?.
how long could someone last playing that cat and mouse game walking on the edge repeating apostate criticism but denying agreement?.
If you want them to think you have to ask them questions they think they can answer, but can't, not tell them stuff they have been warned not to listen to.
It's better if they discover the WT hasn't really answered the question and find jwfacts & co. while using Google to find the missing answer. Better for you, better for them.
Thinking = good
Blocking = bad